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Permalink Reply by Michele Lawrenson, Z6A on April 28, 2011 at 9:44pm

I'm no expert, but from what I do know - both bloom at night.  Datura flowers look more like trumpets and grow on shorter bushy stems.  Moonflowers look like white morning glories and grow like crazy on very long vines.  Datura, from the deadly nightshade family,  contains toxic hallucinogens found in most parts of the plant.  I've heard it called both Angel's Trumpet and Devil's Trumpet (??).  If you want day and night blooms why not stick with Morning Glories and Moonflowers?

Michele

Permalink Reply by Nancy Norris on April 28, 2011 at 9:51pm

Michele, Thank you, I was not aware of the toxic found in Angel's Trumpet. I love the flower so I planted one in a boxed tree bed I have. I have a curious 2 yr old always picking flowers so I'm glad to know this.

Permalink Reply by Deb Buick on April 28, 2011 at 10:04pm

They are all listed on the,"I wish I hadn't planted that", Group.

Here in NOR-CAL, if you plant Morning Glories, chances are you will have them forever.

Trumpet Vine is the same. Not sure if that is the same as what you are calling Angels Trumpet.

Permalink Reply by Azi Batiari on April 28, 2011 at 11:29pm

Don't i know it. I love Morning Glory vines but once you plant it, it's as close as you can get to a permanent relationship. Also I am a big fan of Angels Trumpets, the fragarant is amazing. It's pretty poisonous so I don't plant it any where near my vegetables or fruit trees

Permalink Reply by MAE LUCERO/zn 8 GA on April 28, 2011 at 11:58pm

Angel Trumpet

 

datura or Devil's Trumpet

 

Moonflowers grow in vines like morning glories.  The seeds are about the same size as corn but are light brown and round.  Morning glory seeds are a lot smaller. 

 

Devil's trumpet makes seed pods that look like a ball with thorns.  You'll get plenty of seeds from one pod.  I havent seen a seed pod of angel trumpet but a friend told me it looks like a bean pod.

 

I'm not an expert but I hope this helped.

 

Permalink Reply by Melvalena NTexas on April 29, 2011 at 6:33am

There is a lot of confusion with these plants.

Moon Flower/Datura  and Brugmansia are not related.  Their flowers look similar though. Both are poisonous.

 

There is a moon flower bush and a moon flower vine. Not the same plant at all.

 

Brugmansias want to be trees, in fact in their natural habitat (S America) they are huge trees!

 

Angel Trumpets (brugmansia) flowers  point down  Devil trumpets (datura) flowers point up. 

 

Here in zone 7 N Texas they both die to the ground at first frost,  but will return in the spring.  Brugmansia must be cut back and mulched though. 

 

Moon flower vine is an annual here just like morning glory.  Its blooms open at night.

 

I do have a datura that has been crossed with a brugmansia.   It looks like a datura but smells like a brugmansia and its blooms stay open all day and all night. The fragrance is strongest at night.

 

 

 

Permalink Reply by Azi Batiari on April 29, 2011 at 11:03pm

Wow. How did you get a cross between a datura and brugmansia?

Permalink Reply by Melvalena NTexas on April 30, 2011 at 7:08am

It was a gift from someone who knows someone who crossed them.

Permalink Reply by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on August 19, 2011 at 10:02pm

Datura is one of the common names of brugmansia, same plant.

Permalink Reply by Melvalena NTexas on August 20, 2011 at 9:13am

I'm sorry Rose, that is incorrect.

Dautra and brugmansia are not realted nor are they the same plant. 

 

 

Permalink Reply by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on August 20, 2011 at 10:06am

Yes, you are correct. I stand corrected. I'd love to see your hybrid! Will you post a photo of it, please?

Permalink Reply by Melvalena NTexas on August 20, 2011 at 10:29am

Just as I decided I should take a picture of it last week ...it quit blooming!!  I guess it goes in flushes. 

Been watching it  waiting to it to bloom again.  Its huge and covered in buds right now.  I've cut it back twice already this season.  When it blooms again I'll get some early morning shots and post them here for you to see. 

It looks like a normal datura, aka moonflower bush. The scent is different though.

My brugs are just barely staying alive. :(  This heat is just too much for them even with regular watering.  I quit fertilizing them back early July.  Its just too much to ask of them to produce blooms or growth right now.  :(

Can't wait until mid Sept.  Nights are usually cooler by then and the flowering plants get a little rest from the heat.

 

 

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