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Comment by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on February 12, 2012 at 10:49pm
Well now, Bob, making tea of it is something I've been meaning to do, thanks for reminding me!
Comment by Bob (Z9B Florida) on February 12, 2012 at 11:22am

Thanks, Rose.  I've got red-wigglers and get a lot of the product but generally use most of it making a tea that I use on everything I'm growing outdoors.   I'll try using some as you suggest.  Thanks!

Comment by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on February 12, 2012 at 11:22am

Yvonne, the most important pest and disease prevention is you keeping an eye on your plants and treating when necessary, not knee jerk what they sell you at the store. Bayer is all wrapped up in the ARS and you'd think roses couldn't be greown with out industrial chemicals, but much like humans, plants like to eat healthily and be able to use what defenses they have, and treated for whatever may come with appropriate methods. ( in the case of roses, age proven resistance to pests and diseases, plus vigilant watch on your part) Here in SB, the Rose Society has adopted a strict organic only treatment plan, and that includes Barbara Streisand and Oprahs roses.

Comment by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on February 12, 2012 at 11:18am

Bob, most alfalfa is by default organic because its such a hearty crop, no insects like it, which I think has something to do with why roses fed with alfalfa are so healthy.

Comment by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on February 12, 2012 at 11:14am

Bob, Worm castings have a very fine texture and dissolve fairly quickly. If the roses are in the ground, I used a cup right on the crown and water it in from the crown out into the basin, one of the few times I would water that way. If the rose is in a pot, which I prefer, about a 1/2 inch watered in, making sure I'm not increasing the soil level too much. Hand watering is key to applying any food/amendment.

Comment by Community Manager on February 12, 2012 at 7:35am

Thanks to all that share in this group!

Comment by Bob (Z9B Florida) on February 12, 2012 at 6:55am

Rose .. fairly comprehensive guidelines to follow.  I've been using the alfalfa pellets on roses for years but have no idea if they are really organic or not as I don't know how the alfalfa was grown...but, it's a really good natural food.  Will you please discuss how much and how you apply the worm castings?  Good post!

Comment by Rose in Santa Barbara, CA on February 11, 2012 at 6:47pm

I actually dont use systemics. I use organic alfalfa pellets that you can find at feed storess, worm castings and a kelp/fish foliar feed while its in between blooms.

A word on fertlizers:

the common indicators on labels are the numbers which represent the three major chemicals in the fertilizer (NPK)

The first number represents Nitrogen

Nitrogen makes roots and shoots

The second number represents Phosphorus

Phosphorus makes buds and blooms

The third number represents Potassium, which symbol is K

Potassium makes strong stems and big blooms

You do not want to feed the P and K now when your rose is just beginning. Use a HIGH N or first number.

When you see Buds on your rose, switch to HIGH P and K.

Dont feed N til your blooms are over, or the blooms will fall open quick and not be big.

When the bloom is over prune light to medium and begin higher Nitrogen.

Comment by Bob (Z9B Florida) on February 11, 2012 at 3:32pm

Yvonne...I agree, nothing wrong with opinionated folks...especially when it comes to roses!  It does help to know what part of the country and what their growing conditions are as part of the conversation I think.   What you do in SB can be very correct and yet very different than what it takes here in Central Florida to grow great roses.  Having lived in Redlands, CA where you could stick a dry root in the native soil, add water and ignore for the most part is but a fleeting memory amongst all our nematodes and other nasties here.  :)

Comment by Yvonne Martin zone 9a se texas on February 11, 2012 at 12:43pm

Thanks, I have no problem with opinionated people when I am learning things, I will be watching angel face and if I have any problems out it comes.

Yvonne texas

 

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