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Comment by Kimberly White, Lombard, IL,Zn 5 on January 21, 2011 at 8:07am

I guess page 2 of the article was a separate link.

Comment by Kimberly White, Lombard, IL,Zn 5 on January 21, 2011 at 7:59am

Found an article about the rose you were talking about.

Comment by Charlie Patin Z8 TX on January 21, 2011 at 7:56am
@Michelle, When I was in studying Agri. in college a professor took us to a greenhouse where he was growing toms in gravel with nutrient infused water running through the gravel.  If I remember right the toms were in their 3d year and still producing.  Toms are naturally a perennial plant but our climate and diseases pretty much limits them to annual production.  So, yes, they can be held from year to year is very special care is taken.
Comment by Charlie Patin Z8 TX on January 21, 2011 at 7:38am

Deborah, If you read Lyn's post jut below this about the Mortgage Lifters staying on the plant you'll get an idea of how hardy the stems of Gold Medals are.  I never let them ripen completely on the plant as they  need to be quite firm when you pick them or you'll damage them.  I just set them stem side up on a tray until they ripen.  Actually I do this with all my toms except maybe Romas. 

Love your story about the Sapium Rose.  There is a very popular rose here in TX and LA now.  It was found still alive in New Orleans after the Katrina disaster that killed most other plants.  A horticulturist from LA dug it up and began to take cuttings.  For the life of me I can't think of the name now.  I think he named it after his wife.  Maybe someone will help me out.

Deborah, will do. 

Comment by Lyn - Sydney on January 21, 2011 at 6:25am

Charlie - I like that your Uncle called the toms 'Hellens Tomatoes'' after your Mum.  I have a rose that I took as a cutting from a block of townhouses about to be demolished.  I didn't know what sort of rose it was, just that it was the most beautiful flower and I couldn't bear the thought of it  being ploughed into the ground.  The cutting ultimately took and so I named it after the street (Sapium Way) where it had come from and now 4 years later we always refer to it as the Sapium Rose.

Deborah - I planted Mortgage Lifters and couldn't believe how big the tomatoes grew to be. My largest one weighed 500gms/1 lb and I was surprised how it managed to stay on the vine and not just fall off with the weight.  Nature is amazing isn't it?

Comment by Deborah Hamel (Z9a-9b Arizona) on January 20, 2011 at 11:23pm

Charlie, Thank you for the suggestion of Gold Medal tomatoes from Seed Savers. Just read the information and put it in my shopping cart. Any other tips and advise would be greatly appreciated.


Comment by Lyn - Sydney on January 20, 2011 at 11:17pm
Went to nursery to buy another Blueberry plant - they have doubled the price to $12, talk about inflation. I gave it a miss and will look elsewhere for a cheaper one.
Comment by Lyn - Sydney on January 20, 2011 at 10:06pm

Miko - If you go to this site and enter swapping seeds it tells you all about NOT bringing in seeds from overseas (unless they have been through full quarantine) and also not to send seeds interstate.

There are two sites (government) where you can also check: Imported restrictions (quarantine) and nationally and restricted prohibited seeds at

Hope this helps you somewhat, sorry not good news but I guess the rules are there for a reason to stop diseases being spread around this beautiful country - remembering we are basically an island and you only have to look at how the introduced Cane Toad has caused havoc in this country to know that seeds can also be a major problem - you would probably find Customs/Quarantine would seize them before they got to you anyway.


I would not be requesting seeds from overseas or interstate if I was you, only those through a certified nursery/garden site here in Aus.

Comment by Lyn - Sydney on January 20, 2011 at 9:27pm


Marie - to show your State, Zone etc - go into Settings on the RHS of page and where your name is you can add your zone etc to it and then press save.  I have just changed mine today to show I am o/seas and therefore much different climate than many of you gardeners.

Comment by Charlie Patin Z8 TX on January 20, 2011 at 9:12pm
@Bob, Apologizes.  Never meant it as a slam at you.  I just meant that I never have personally known anyone who made tomato cuttings to carry them to the next year.  I admire you for trying something new.  Hope it works and would love to know if it does for you.  Florida has a much different growing environment than here in E.Central TX.  In much of FL you can probably grow tomatoes almost year round.  Not here unless you have a greenhouse.  Also gets much hotter here on avg. in July, Aug, and Sept. than in FL.  It's not unusual to have 10-20 days straight of 100*.  Tomatoes don't do much in that heat.  They stay alive if watered but absolutely no pollination takes place.

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