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Comment by Deborah Hamel (Z9a-9b Arizona) on January 20, 2011 at 5:00pm
Just a comment. I love that many of you participating in this site add your Zone, state and sometimes country. I am new to the site and followed your lead by adding Z9a-9b Arizona to my identifier. When I read Charlie Patin's comment, I visualize his growing environment when I see Z8 TX behind his name.
Comment by Bob (Z9B Florida) on January 20, 2011 at 5:00pm

Charlie said:  "I've never heard of any good (or bad) tomato grower doing it. "

 

Thanks for questioning my integrity, Charlie.  Really appreciate it.  Guys like you really make sharing gardening ideas fun.

Comment by Charlie Patin Z8 TX on January 20, 2011 at 4:51pm
Deborah, If you use Seed Savers you might want to try a plant or two of Gold Medal.  The toms are HUGE (up to 2 lbs) but what attracts me is the flavor when eaten raw.  Very sweet and mild.  Give it a try this year and let me know what you think.  Not many toms/plant.  That's why I usually plant at least 4.
Comment by Charlie Patin Z8 TX on January 20, 2011 at 4:47pm
Now @Deborah,  Now that's an interesting post.  May plan to do it this year just for fun.
Comment by Lyn - Sydney on January 20, 2011 at 4:42pm
Deborah - What a fantastic idea with your toms, definitely worth a try as I can plant toms throughout the year here, although of course the colder winter months they slow down considerably. 
Comment by Charlie Patin Z8 TX on January 20, 2011 at 4:22pm

Diana, I agree with you.  Tomato cuttings are very easy to make but carrying them over from season to season is probably not a good idea.  I thought about it for starting a fall crop from my spring crop but never did it and when I mentioned it to an uncle of mine who had been a high school Ag teacher he was not in favor it it.  Said it could have diseases and other problems I don't remember.  I've never heard of any good (or bad) tomato grower doing it.  Just too easy to start new plants from seed. 

However, my mother did this: Every year she saved the very best tom. from my father's garden.  My dad planted the plants from those seeds every year.  Beyond that, that same uncle used those seeds with his Ag class.  Eventually, the plants became pretty much a variety of themselves.  My uncle dubbed them Hellen Tomatoes.  My mother's name was Hellen.  Now that may be something to try. 

Comment by Deborah Hamel (Z9a-9b Arizona) on January 20, 2011 at 3:10pm
I agree Diana, garden success can be simply a matter of experimentation. That is my gardening goal this year. I am trying containers on north, east and west sides of my home, see what does best. I found a gardener's thermometer and have been learning more about temperature variations in soil types, container types, watering impact, and direct verses indirect sun exposure. Gardening is so much fun, it is worth a few less than successful plantings to find what works well for the next season.
Comment by diana Z9 Houston, Texas on January 20, 2011 at 2:38pm

I usually grow whatever varities are available and whatever is new and exciting.  I have grown heirloom varieties but the bugs in S. Texas are vicious. I have done transplants, but when my tom are done, I pull them out and grow something else.  The S. Texas heat usually takes care of tom. Bob is right, there is not right way or wrong way of growing.  Its your way or the trash way. Marie, I think it was probably the heat that made your brocolli bolt.  The stems are vary tasty too, just peel off the layers and then cook it like brocolli.  Since the weather has been off and on here in S. Texas the only veggie that I have taken from the garden is cabbage.  If you leave it in the garden for too long, the cabbage worms will eat it, just like the brocolli or califlower.

Sharon, I too like early girl and early boy.  I enjoy mamma romas, beefsteak, celebrity (bush var), russian and lots more.

Its all in the soil, watering, weather and if the variety that is good for your climante/zone.

Comment by Marie Servinsky on January 20, 2011 at 2:23pm
Thank you Deborah for that link. I'll try there for some info. ~Marie
Comment by Bob (Z9B Florida) on January 20, 2011 at 1:44pm

Sharon and others,

 

Remember I did caution that you may not be totally satisfied with tomato cuttings... plant may have something going on with it and there's no sense propagating that...but I have has good success.  We have a March-Apr and a Sep-Oct planting period for them so "carryover" is not much of an issue.

But... you can easily take a cutting and once it's ready to transplant into the ground, instead put it in a large pot and use grow lights and manual pollenation techniques and have some nice off-season tomatoes.  You could then take a cutting of that plant for further propagation into your normal planting time. 

Be creative...there are no "cannot do thats" in gardening if you don't want there to be.  :)

 

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